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When The Market Turns

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Hello! Today I’m answering a reader question – about the stock market and purchasing (yes!):

Hi Kat,
I know you invest and I was hoping you could write a post about the market and when it goes down and how it impacts your purchasing. Are you concerned/worried? Does it make you buy less?
 

So I normally store up reader questions and get to them much later but I was just thinking about this and wanted to write some thoughts! If you’re a fellow investor then I’m sure you’ve seen the carnage in the markets – a few down days and you can lose way more than if you had made that X,Y,Z, splurge (though of course equities are very diff. than shoes and bags! no flame comments please!) I’m actually sitting here writing this post Sunday afternoon (procrastinator) and so it’s anyone’s guess how things are going to go tomorrow in the markets. But there’s been a lot of backsliding and I’m as curious and worried as anyone else. That being said – here are some thoughts:

via Reuters

Don’t panic! If you believed in a company enough to buy it’s stock then you still likely believe in it, right? It wasn’t just a gamble. If that’s the case, then be calm and ride it out. Of course there are always cases where you need to cut your losses but otherwise there are days (and longer) when I don’t look at my portfolio if I know it’s going to be bad.

Does how the market performs impact my purchasing? Not directly, at least. I have a separate account which is in cash or cash equivalents that I use to buy frivolous items so to me they aren’t related. There are a few items on my wishlist that if they appeared, I would jump on them tomorrow even if the market continued to crash. That’s what the cash is there for! But…

Psychologically the market still does impact me. And that’s alright, too! I think it’s okay to allow yourself a little anxiety when the markets are going crazy and your account balance is showing a big negative number for the week. OR when it’s showing a big positive and you’re feeling flush! It’s normal and despite all I tell myself about the normal course of markets there’s always that sort of panic. One thing I’ve learned is that it’s okay to allow yourself not to be perfectly rational. I mean, if you were, then maybe you could be a genius and make tons of money in the markets (maybe you DO?). But how about you go out, take a walk, or clean out your closet…the latter always calms me and maybe you can send to The Real Real and make some money to boot.

One other thing – though I generally don’t let the market dictate how I feel about luxury purchases, it CAN also make me want to buy less, in that stocks are cheap! I was going to finally pull the trigger on a little Bottega bag this week (the green is so cool) but ended up not doing it because I decided maybe I would like to save the cash to buy some stocks instead.

Anyway…let’s end with my overall disclaimer that I really am not a financial expert and this is just my individual experience in the markets, as we enter what will likely be another dramatic week. I would LOVE to hear how other investors are thinking about their investments and also purchasing given the current uncertainty! Does the market’s performance impact your spending at all?

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13 Comments

  • Reply
    Elle
    March 2, 2020 at 10:27 am

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts; I’ve also been curious about how the volatile stock market is affecting people’s shopping habits. I started to trim some stock positions when I returned from a trip to Taiwan last month so at this point I am just holding the remainder in SPDR ETFs and reciting “I am not retiring for many many years” to stem the panic. Like you, I am also shopping a little less, precisely because stocks are cheap(er) and I hope to be in a position to invest more when it feels less scary out there.

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    Diane W
    March 2, 2020 at 11:39 am

    Seeing as I’m a LOT older, my situation may not be interesting to your readers. (I recently turned 70.) I’ve been retired since I was 63, so I’m accustomed to supplementing my pension with money from my portfolios.

    I don’t make my own investment decisions, but I do decide how much I’ll draw on a monthly basis and for any larger (usually art or house-related) projects. My personal rule of thumb is to keep a minimum of three to five years of supplemental spending income in cash. I have an amount transferred each month into my checking account. I do this because, even if I end up “leaving money on the table” during bull runs, I never have to sell stocks when they’re down but still viable for a recovery. Having to sell stocks under those conditions is my biggest obstacle….by far, even if it’s not rational in the investment world.

    As far as shopping, I think that aging has slowed me down, not the economic conditions. I read that as people age, they tend to spend less, although I didn’t think that would happen with me, probably because I never thought about being old. But I really don’t have the same enthusiasm for shopping that I used to have.

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      Kat
      March 2, 2020 at 1:47 pm

      I am VERY interested in your opinion! Your cash rationale is very logical to me – how did you come to this rule? Was it yourself or somewhere you read?

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        Diane w
        March 2, 2020 at 7:46 pm

        Initially, when I started investing, I named my account the “no cat food account”. My goal was simply not to end up eating pet food….based on a news show I saw about seniors who hadn’t saved for their senior years. My (then) advisor encouraged me to try to figure out my “sleep at night factor”. I knew that I’d need ready cash to feel secure although I didn’t have a clue as to an amount. I was also young and working, so I knew I could get by on my salary. The 2008 Recession really scared me. I was 58 and retirement seemed just around the corner. I forced myself to stay in the market and ride it out. But that’s when I started thinking about a number…..which became a time range. My 3-5 year supplemental cash reserve has been my number from my retirement at 63 till now. I don’t see myself actually needing that amount but I’d rather have extra leftover than fear falling short. I’m not a big risk taker in financial matters, and knowing that cash is there should I need it has been very good for my mental health and my “sleep at night factor”. I know it’s crazy but if I ever had to sell a stock at a loss and then watch it rebound without me, I’d be a mess, as that’s my REAL fear. The Cash Stash alleviates that fear….at least so far (in theory). Now that I’m (most likely) going to be implementing it, we’ll see how I do…..

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          Diane w
          March 2, 2020 at 7:49 pm

          Sorry this is so long. I had several decades to cover!

          • Kat
            March 2, 2020 at 9:03 pm

            Not long at all, fascinating and prudent! I totally relate to what you say about the fear of having to sell a stock and knowing/feeling htat it will rebound.

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    sherry @ save. spend. splurge.
    March 2, 2020 at 3:10 pm

    Buy MORE. Everything is on sale to me. If the index and company fundamentals are good — why are we thinking this blip in their value affects what they do as a company?

    I dropped another $60K into the markets last week to pick up some dividend buys I didn’t have money for back when they were at July prices…

    I am young so I can weather the market. So I threw in half of my emergency fund ($60K) into the market. I am keeping the other amounts for my free cash flow as a freelancer, but I also plan on dropping more money and digging into my funds if I see things dip some more.

    Buy. Hold. Don’t buy anything you can’t see yourself holding for 10 years.

    • Reply
      Kat
      March 2, 2020 at 5:50 pm

      This is AWESOME!! Thank you for sharing!

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    Brook
    March 3, 2020 at 5:28 am

    And this Kat, is why I love your blog so much. It is so refreshing to read thoughtful material about investing from ladies who also appreciate a designer bag. I am eyeing stocks this week as if there has been a sale….

    • Reply
      Kat
      March 4, 2020 at 1:47 pm

      Thanks so much Brook!

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    Revanche @ A Gai Shan Life
    March 6, 2020 at 11:46 am

    I keep a year of cash money as untouchable money, the rest of my reserve money goes to large purchases and the market.

    Last year I did lump sum investing as an experiment but this year I’m sticking to buying shares every week. Instinctively when the market drops I want to dump a lot more, but I am also very mindful that our two jobs aren’t necessarily the most stable. If the recession threatens our employment or the market drops a lot more over the next several months, I won’t want to be caught with all our cash in the market and having to cash out at an inconvenient time. So I will stick to my buying schedule, though I might bump up the amounts a little bit.

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    C
    March 19, 2020 at 10:09 am

    I hope you and your family are well in these crazy times. Was reading this article on Adam Neumman’s wife and it totally strikes me as the type of article you’d enjoy having seen what you share here over the years. https://www.bustle.com/p/rebekah-neumanns-search-for-enlightenment-fueled-weworks-collapse-22581874

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      Kat
      March 19, 2020 at 10:38 am

      Ha!! I shared it earlier! It is indeed amazing. Stay healthy and thank you for thinking of me 🙂

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